You also lose height and upwind That can also suffer with really long lines, like 40m. Eventually line drag just kills upwind, but boards and foils can overcome that Anyway, there's lots the it. Try it, you'll understand.
Re: Kite line length vs kite size comparison Post by edt » Fri May 15, pm long does do not increase the power of the kite in a simple fashion, that is you can't add 1 meter or 2 meters that can't be done. The additional power is affected by the wind gradient that's all there is to it. So you don't really gain anything with long lines if you know how to loop the kite.
What long lines do is give you better access to better wind and this all depends on the wind gradient of your particular beach and the weather of that particular day. If the gradient is very flat longer lines will cause you to lose power because all the lines will do is create friction. If the gradient is particularly steep some thermals have steep wind gradients 10 extra meters could double or triple the power of your kite.
Since it is typically practiced on low wind days, long and thin lines seem to be more appropriate to increase the wind power and reduce resistance to advance and drag. Keep in mind that if you aren't experienced enough, using long lines can be quite dangerous: the kite will be much less responsive.
It will reach a high speed for an extended time, generating a considerable amount of power. On the opposite side, If you are just learning to kitesurf, use very short lines between 5 to 10 meters before starting with the standard setup.
The kite won't reach high speeds and will have a minimal flight window, making it impossible to produce enough power that could lead to dangerous situations. That's why the best kite schools tend to use short line setup for their beginner students. Jun 03, by Gabriele F. If you like our content and you want to be informed on the next blogposts release, please subscribe here. That will also help us to continue to provide quality content:. Get Free Updates. Excellent information! Thank you.
I have found, when foiling, In light winds 10kts or less , I get more power and more consistant rides on, a 10m kite with 26m lines, than on a 12m kite with 24m lines. You only mention the length of one kite discipline. I don't quite get the question John, can you be more specific? I've been kitesurfing for about 20 years; started on 40m lines back in the day, now I teach on very short lines until the students have all the pieces together and are actually ready to practice water starting.
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You will get free lifetime visibility on Kitesurf Culture website and, if you have a website, precious backlinks to improve your SEO position. Promote School. This goes for kite string too! A knot will decrease a line's strength considerably.
However, it's most convenient to connect a line to a kite with a knot of some kind. Other knots in the bridle don't matter quite so much since the load is shared between at least 2 lines in most bridles. A kite string is under serious strain when it starts making noises at you! I haven't really looked into it, but my gut feeling is that it would have to be in the upper half of it's strength range when this starts to happen.
Perhaps even in the top quarter of its strength range! Of our MBK kites, the Fresh Wind Box is most likely to get up a bit of a buzz or whistle when the wind strength picks up. It's quite eerie the first time you hear it! With our bigger dowel kites 1m or 4 feet span , we use the 20 pound line for only the lightest of wind speeds. For most of their wind range, the 50 pound line is much safer.
Good line is strong compared to its weight. If spiders were as large as big crabs, they would spin some awesome kite string! Spider web is around 5 times stronger than steel and twice as strong as the best synthetic fibers apparently. It makes you think whether it might actually be worth a try for those miniature-kites fanatics.
I'm talking about those people who try really hard to make working kites that are only a few millimeters in span! Not surprisingly, the Japanese do rather well in this field with their tradition of 'small is beautiful'.
Here's some practical advice, from bitter experience! The best bet is to avoid getting a tangle in the first place. That's not hard to do, it's just a matter of moving around when pulling in line.
The idea is to not let it pile up on the ground too much in the one spot. When winding in a long length of loose kite string, you might notice a clump starting to form. Don't let it tighten. Just go out and loosen it up so there are no wraps. If you can afford it, try braided line. It's much less likely to tangle. Even if it does, the resulting knots are much easier to undo than for cotton or twisted synthetic line.
Tangles are caused by long loops winding around each other. It's usually possible to loosen a tangle up by picking at it with your fingers and fingernails. Just be careful not to make the situation worse! Then start to find loops and feed them back through, one at a time.
If the tangle isn't too bad, this might result in the mess finally falling apart so you can wind it all onto the reel.
Otherwise, you might have to resort to feeding a free end of the line back through the tangle. I tried 50m race lines on the weekend and was seriously powered up when diving the kite or sining. The line weight caused the kite to sit back in the wind window, so upwind performance was average, but the power was huge.
Will be interesting to see what minimum wind strength I can get going on with a Hi Scanno, Lighter winds are usually best with longer lines. Although longer lines m do offer more power, the resulting power is far more downwind in direction and the steering becomes very "squishy", in other words, your upwind will suffer and heaven help you should the wind strength suddenly increase rapidly.
With longer lines and faoiling, it is worth noting that, you only need the longer lines to get you water started and up onto the foil. Once on the foil, apparent wind should kick right in and you won't need that much power any more. The shorter your lines are, the more control you have over the kite, easier to edge it to neutral, easier to deal with gusts, easier to launch and land and more responsive and playful due to smaller wind window when surfing or doing more manouevreable type foiling requiring quick changes of direction.
Downside or upside depending on the wind strength and your kite size is that the entire wind envelope your kite works in, is pushed up the wind scale which means you can use a larger kite in stronger winds. When racing on fast foils and using ram air kites, 24m is considered very long.
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